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Panentheism, and Reality as the Womb of God [Dec. 11th, 2005|09:36 pm]
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goatoverlord42
This is an incredible article on an idea which lies in many religions, seeing God as ever present and co-creating reality with his creations, rather than sitting up on a cloud telling people what to do. It sums up my beliefs pretty powerfully, and has some interesting potentials for dialogue and common ground between the Theistic and Non-theistic faiths (in light of Trevoke's recent thoughts on Taoism and Christianity). Do check it out if you can:

http://www.stnews.org/articles.php?category=guide&guide=Panentheism&article_id=413
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My churches are reaching out to each other... coolness [Dec. 11th, 2005|08:53 pm]
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goatoverlord42
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/180/story_18093_1.html

Apparently Pope Benedict is reaching out to my other church, the Methodists to join an agreement healing some of the disputes which caused the Reformation. That's pretty cool, and wins him some brownie points in my book, heh.
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(no subject) [Nov. 29th, 2005|11:53 am]
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trevoke
As you may all know, I'm a Taoist.. I started a discussion, innocently, on my LJ, and after a friend of mine started to bash christianity, I found myself defending it.. This may remind goatoverlord42 of discussions we have when we drive places :)


The God concept is not limiting, for the christian God is limitless. Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. It is everywhere at the same time.
What is the difference? Well, you are again talking about how Christians understand their religion, and you are not talking about what the religion is.
Christian prayer is a form of meditation. How many do it right? Maybe none. But that doesn't change what it is.
The Christian God is the same concept as the Tao. You cannot understand it. The word "God" is as limiting as the word "Tao".

What is the mistake they made, or what is it that you are getting stuck on? "God" has a personality? I believe that this is a mistake, and that God has no personality. God is not a person. God is beyond understanding. The message of the Christian religion is a message of love, not of hatred; it is explained differently than it is in the Tao, but it is the same thing.

Think about it. The words are different, but can't you see the similitudes? Stop thinking about what people are doing and start thinking about the truth. The Christian religion is not about its people, but about its ideas.

Praying to God should not be "asking God something". It should be a communion with God.


Namaste.

(note : http://www.livejournal.com/users/trevoke/194164.html is the post that started the conversation)
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Buddhist links [Nov. 3rd, 2005|11:26 am]
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trevoke
http://www.geocities.com/ekchew.geo/7factors.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/buddha2.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/india/buddha-life.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~mpaw12/id9.html

More knowledge to be spread around.

Namaste.
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(no subject) [Nov. 1st, 2005|03:07 pm]
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trevoke
http://www.jadedragon.com/

A website that has a lot of articles on health, taoism, martial arts, feng shui, and so on and so forth. Very well-written, I landed on it while researching 'wu wei' (non-action) for someone in a taoist community.

Cross-posting to : trevoke, tao_talk, pilgrimssolace, _tao_te_ching, _martial_arts (I feel like I need to spread this one out).
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Bhagavad-Gita Chapter XIV [Oct. 23rd, 2005|05:34 pm]
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trevoke
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Guna: The Three QualitiesCollapse )
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Tragic Death in a Friend's Family [Oct. 17th, 2005|11:01 pm]
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goatoverlord42
Just wanted to ask people to send prayers and good thoughts for a dear friend who's dad just died completely unexpectedly tonight. The poor kid's in his first semester away at college, and his brother's just starting high school. I can't imagine what the family's going through right now. My friend's name is Jonathan, and his dad's Carlos. Thanks in advance...
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New Group on Spirituality and Psychology/Therapy [Oct. 16th, 2005|09:55 pm]
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goatoverlord42
Just wanted to let everyone know about something exciting that I'm helping to organize at NYU, in the graduate social work school I attend. It started out as an attempt to continue a little meditation group that ran last year, and its become an overwhelming success. We currently have at least three professeurs potentially interested, as well as a number of students which seems to double every week.

We've started with meeting weekly in a discussion group, sharing our own spiritual journeys, much as we do here and also discussing the potential for interaction between spirituality and psychology, and what that means to us as students. Our hope is to also involve some sort of weekly offering, be it prayer or meditation, from our diverse backgrounds, and also have some guest speakers and trips, like done here. It looks like we'll even have the opportunity to help one professeur design a future course relating to these issues.

The group has been simply incredible so far, so I simply wanted to make people here aware of it. It would be great to have people visit even if they're not in the school (I'll need to check on guest policies in certain buildings, but if you want to come let me know). Additionally, I've been trying to send out a weekly digest of our discussions, something people here might be interested in. If you are, please let me know and I'll put you on the mailing list. Stay tuned for further updates, I'd love to see these two groups interact in meaningful ways.
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question [Oct. 14th, 2005|03:05 pm]
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travellinman
i would like yall to seriously respond to this question

if you could make one person God (preferably not yourself) who would it be and why?

and if you want post this question in your own journal to see what YOUR friends say

my choice would be saul williams

my reasoning? saul is a brilliant poet and philosopher in my mind

and a lot of his poems deal with spirituality in the world and socioeconomic problems

i'd like to see a Saulian world exist

and you?
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ACK! I'm late! [Oct. 7th, 2005|07:07 pm]
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daeron
So. Another month has begun. Here are the details: The month is Puanepsion, and it runs from October the 4th through November the 1st. Lots to do this month. Here's the rundown:



Proerosia Saturday, October 8th (the 5th day of Puanepsion):
This was an agricultural festival held at Eleusis in honor of Demeter. The name translates, basically, as "preliminary to ploughing," which gives you an idea of the point of this one. Offerings of first fruits (mostly grain) are given to Demeter to ask for her blessing at the beginning of the sowing season. Apollons oracle told the Athenians to begin the Proerosia in order to end a horrible famine, and this story is recounted at the festival.

Puanepsia Monday, October 10th (the 7th day of Puanepsion):
This was a festival dedicated to Phoebus Apollon. The God was offered a sacrifice of a he-goat (sorry goatoverlord42), and a lamb, and a meal was held for him. During the procession, each boy carried an eiresione, the traditional sign of a supplicant. However on this day, the eirisione, normally a bough of olive wreathed with wool, was possibly made of laurel, and was decorated with pastries shaped like wineskins, harps, and cups, along with real fruit. The boys carried the boughs from house to house, begging for food, and singing. If the occupant gave them something to eat, they would give him an eirisione to bless his house. The ritual food that gave its name to this festival (and this month) consists of a mixture of boiled legumes. According to myth, Theseus and his crew returned to Athens on this day, and offered Apollon this dish, made from the remains of their provisions. The combination of all the plants also works well as a prayer for a bountiful harvest.

Oskhophoria Monday, October 10th (the 7th day of Puanepsion):
Note the date. Same as the preceeding holiday. This isn't a mistake on my part. It just works out that way. This was a celebration of the wine harvest (well, the harvest of the grapes used to make the wine), in honour of Dionysos, when men carried vine branches with the grapes still clinging to them through the town in a procession. Hymns about the harvest and winemaking were sung. A ritual meal was held, where legends were told (mainly about Theseus) and acted out.

Thesia Tuesday, October 11th (the 8th day of Puanepsion):
A festival honouring Theseus (seeing a pattern this month?), the son of Poseidon. There was a procession, sacrifices, athletic contests, and a feast including a porridge of wheat and milk (kind of like oatmeal).

Stenia Wednesday, October 12th (the 9th day of Puanepsion):
This was a nocturnal women's festival for Demeter and Persephone in preparation for the Thesmophoria (see below). The women insulted each other light-heartedly to commemorate the way Iambe made the grieving Demeter laugh. Votive offerings were thrown into pits in the sanctuary of Demeter, including bread in the shape of phalluses and snakes, as well as sacrificed pigs.

Thesmophoria Friday, October 14th, through Sunday, October 16th (the 11th, 12th, and 13th days of Puanepsion:
An all-female agricultural festival in honour of Demeter and Persephone, held in Demeter's hillside sanctuary. On the first day, the women climbed the hill and made camp, sleeping on the ground in huts. On the second day, the women sat on the ground and fasted from all solid food (except pomegranate seeds) in sympathy with Demeter's mourning. They taunted each other in iambic verse, in imitation of Iambe and Demeter. On the third day, there was a torch-lit ceremony, because Demeter sought Persephone by torch light. This may have been when the offerings were eremoved from the earth by purified priestesses, and placed on the altars of the goddess. Later, this compost was mixed with the grain to be sown the following month. The rest of the day was spent in joyous celebration.

Khalkeia Tuesday, November 1st (the 29th day of Puanepsion):
A festival of smiths, associated with Hephaistos and Athene. It was a day of rest from work, and a procession of workers moved through the town carrying baskets of corn. Later, a feast was held.
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